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  • #2991
    Avatarsamo_dadela
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    Some general comments on NX 4:

    – make minimize default when clicking in corner (like in NX 3): Once setup I rarely need to reach the NX menu but often need to switch back to the host. I can use CTRL-ALT-0 to get to the menu.

    – add an exit button to the NX menu: only way to exit on Windows is to use ALT-F4 or switch to task manager and kill-it.

    – add a Restart service button to NX Service: when changing some settings it says to restart the service – but I don’t know how (reboot the linux box?).

    – why is the menu full screen/over other windows and not a regular window?

     

    Things I like:

    – installation without hassle (would make it clear that the installer contains both client and server; would ask if the server should be started)

    – can connect to Linux even if the user is not logged in (NX 3 didn’t)

    – performance is better

    #2998
    Avatartitan
    Participant

    Hi, thanks for your feedback, it’s much appreciated.

    – make minimize default when clicking in corner (like in NX 3): Once setup I rarely need to reach the NX menu but often need to switch back to the host

    There is a “Show extended icons in the page peel” (you set it via the Menu -> Input -> Use action icons in the page-peel) . This gives access to the screen manipulation icons without having to open the full menu. Or open the full menu and click on the minimize icon on the bottom. We can’t just make “click in the corner” the action to minimize. If we do that we have the big problem of finding a replacement for opening the menu. Such a replacement must be easily accessible on all platforms, intuitive and not overlapping with any common action that the user is normally performing on the system. It is not by casuality that both the latest Windows and the latest OS X are recurring to “click the edge of the screen to…” actions. It was one of the few actions remained not taken by something else.

    – add an exit button to the NX menu: only way to exit on Windows is to use ALT-F4 or switch to task manager and kill-it.

    Open the menu, click on the “Disconnect” icon you find on the extreme right, just below the “Done” button. I assume you are talking about a NX window displaying full screen. If the session runs in a overlapped window you just close the window.

    – add a Restart service button to NX Service: when changing some settings it says to restart the service – but I don’t know how.

    Good point. We’ll made the “restart the service” notice a link. Clicking on the link will restart the server (after the confirmation).

    – why is the menu full screen/over other windows and not a regular window?

    Are you asking why is the menu an overlay and not a window that you can move inside the remote desktop?  Because it is not part of the remote desktop, but part of the viewer. We need to create a clear separation between what is happening locally and what is happening remotely. Most users would be confused by a “Stop” button appearing inside the scene of the movie they are watching. 😉

    #3253
    Avatarsamo_dadela
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    > We can’t just make “click in the corner” the action to minimize.

    I am using “show extended icons”… it’s just a nag to aim and click on the right icon – it’s easier just to go directly into the corner and click (as said: once set-up I’m not using the menu any more). So if you would have an option – “Do {minimize|show menu|else} when clicking on black” (and then replacing the icon that is not the default in the extended icons) that would be OK. You could also always draw the menu extended icon. You can always switch to the menu using CTRL-ALT-0 – you could warn the user if he changes the default that the only way to get back the menu is by using the hotkey (or maybe right clicking in the corner? :)).

    If that is not possible at least provide a minimize hotkey… like CTRL-ALT-9 (or configurable).

    > add an exit button to the NX menu: only way to exit on Windows is to use ALT-F4 or switch to task manager and kill-it.

    You misunderstood… To reproduce (I’m using the Linux client):

    – fire up NX Client, expected: you see the menu with a list of connections – don’t connect to anything!

    – now try to exit: I can exit only with ALT-F4

    > Are you asking why is the menu an overlay and not a window that you can move inside the remote desktop?

    No. I just thought that the ‘menu’ would be a normal windowed application and not show full screen. Opening a new connection would result in a new window opening up. You would have then 2 (normal) separate windows, one the ‘menu’ the other the ‘connection’ (they would be listed in the taskbar)… I could then switch to the menu window again and fire up another connection resulting in 3 windows. Well… I see now the drawback of this solution: to change any settings in the current connection you would have to go back to the ‘menu’ window since there would not be any overlay within the connection.

     

    #3392
    AvatarTor
    Contributor

    Hello samo_dadela!

    If that is not possible at least provide a minimize hotkey… like CTRL-ALT-9 (or configurable).

    The following feature that we’re implementing will allow you to minimize with a shortcut:
    https://www.nomachine.com/FR04L02812

    – now try to exit: I can exit only with ALT-F4

    If I’ve understood correctly, the behaviour you’re describing is related to the player running in fullscreen mode. In the current version you need to leave fullscreen to close the window. In one of the next updates we’ll add a close button at the bottom of the dialog that will make the operation easier.

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